U.S. Roman Catholics and Christians Don’t Know What They Believe

U.S. Roman Catholics and Christians Don’t Know What They Believe

Sad fact people here are essentially ignorant concerning the Bible

By Greg Szymanski, JD
Mar. 23, 2009

The question to answer for both Roman Catholics and Christians is whether they can believe in two diametrically opposed gospels at the same time?

The sad fact, however, is most of the abovementioned people don’t know the difference.

This is verified at The Christian Expositor web site, citing a recent survey:

“If that is not bad enough, 44% of people calling themselves Christians believe that it doesn’t matter what religious faith you follow because they all teach the same lessons, and 51% of these ‘Christians’ believe that is a person is good enough they will get to heaven.

“Forty one per cent believed that ALL PEOPLE will experience the same outcome after death, regardless of their religious beliefs.

“If Paul and the other apostles had this same attitude in their day where would we be today? It is easy to see why our nation is suffering today and why there is a lack of Christian influence in our society.

“There is clearly something wrong with a Christian faith that is not moved to action by the idolatry that surrounds it.”

Although the original Protestant Reformers had their differences, they were in unanimous agreement on two things: salvation by faith and outing the Vatican as the Anti-Christ as identified in the Book of Revelations.

Both of these tenents are gone today, making Rome’s ecumenical movement all the more dangerous to religious freedom.

So what do Christians and Roman Catholics really believe today?

The Christian Expositor Web site had this to say:

“Can a faithful Catholic agree that the Bible teaches that salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone – while also agreeing that ‘the sacraments of the New Law [canons and decrees of the Church] are … necessary for salvation’ and ‘without them … men cannot ‘obtain from God through faith alone the grace of justification…’ (Trent 7th Session, Canon 4)?  Catholicism, carried to its logical conclusion, is a denial of justification by faith in the context of Romans 3, 4, 5 and 8, because it involves works as a means of merit, whereas Biblical theology informs us that salvation is ‘by grace, the gift of God, not by works, lest anyone should boast’ (Ephesians 2:8-10)

‘Faith alone’ is condemned by the Roman Catholic Church but, by contrast, adding anything to faith is condemned as a false gospel by the Apostle Paul (Galatians 1:6-9)! Can an ‘evangelical’ Catholic priest transubstantiate a piece of bread into the body and blood of Christ and then during the Mass ‘immolate’ Him (‘to kill as in a sacrifice,’ according to Webster’s New World Dictionary)?  Can this priest, while celebrating the Mass, also deny that the Eucharist is ‘truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ…’ as his church declared centuries ago (Trent, 13th Session, Canon 1)?

So which gospel is it, folks? DO you follow Vatican tradition or the unadulterated version of God’s Word in the Bible (King James 1611):

Here is a good analysis by the abovementioned reference at the Expositor:

The Bible teaches that the communion elements are simply symbolic because this is the plain teaching of the text, but it is a view anathematised by the ‘infallible’ Council of Trent. Can ‘evangelical’ Catholic communicants believe that the Eucharist is only symbolic of Christ and at the same time believe that the bread and wine become ‘the Body and Blood of Christ”?  To do so is illogical and un-Scriptural, for people fail to recognise that Jesus was standing bodily before the apostles when He made His statements regarding this Memorial – the bread and wine are therefore but ’emblems’ in a sacrament to be undertaken, for ‘as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes’ (1 Corinthians 11:26; cf. Matthew 26; Mark 14; Luke 22). To allow Catholics who choose to remain in Rome to fellowship with believers through ‘the Ecumenical Movement’ is to risk ‘fellowshipping with unbelievers’ (2 Corinthians 6:14-18), for how can any orthodox evangelical who desires to see Catholics saved know whether they really have ‘received the basic gospel.’  Which gospel do they really believe – Rome’s or the Biblical gospel?  Which Jesus do they have a personal relationship with as Lord and Saviour? The One who cried out (John 19:30) from the cross, ‘It is finished!’ (i.e., the debt is fully paid), or the one who continues to be sacrificed around the world, millions of times per year, on Catholic altars?  Is Jesus really Lord and sole Redeemer, or is He still joint-Redeemer with his mother, the totally un-Scriptural ‘Mediatrix’ Mary?  Going out into the streets, or door-to-door in Wales, never mind Catholic countries where Rome’s deception is rampant, one searches in vain for a Roman Catholic who even knows, much less believes, the true Biblical gospel!

Do ‘charismatic’ Catholics really manifest the gifts of the Holy Spirit?  Will the Spirit that leads us ‘into all truth’ (John 16:13) energize Roman sacraments which deny the gospel, and encourage Catholics to continue in idolatrous rituals, recite prayers using pagan rosaries, and revitalize their devotions to Mary – as nearly all ‘evangelical Catholics’ claim? No, the Spirit of truth certainly will not!  This is another ‘spirit’ – the occultic spirit which pervades the ‘Charismatic’ movement where the Gnostics of the metaphysical pseudo-Science of W.E. Kenyon have met with the Quakers, Fakers and Shakers of the Vineyard-Kansas City fellowships, and Shaman friends of Arch-heretic Carey unite with the spirit of the Dalai Lama, ‘friend’ of the Pope!  The Bible clearly teaches that ‘friendship with the world is enmity with God’ (James 4:4). This is the spirit that rejects examination of doctrine and teachings by the Word of God and relies on ’emotion’ and ‘feelings.’  It is therefore not surprising that, behind the scenes, the Catholic Church has been pushing ecumenism for years. It is not only drawing the ‘separated brethren’ of Protestantism back into the fold, but uniting all religions under Rome, as Revelation 17 indicates.

4 thoughts on “U.S. Roman Catholics and Christians Don’t Know What They Believe

  1. “Nothing is easier than to formulate high ideals. But little is harder than to find the means that will can translate these ideals into action. You have to dream, but in a pragmatical way.” Aldous Huxley
    I’m not a mysticizer,” Jesus said …
    Faith is a grace: When St. Peter confessed that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, Jesus, declared to him that this revelation did not come “from flesh and blood”, but from “my Father who is in heaven”. Faith is a gift of God, a supernatural virtue infused by him. “Before this faith can be exercised, man must have the grace of God to move and assist him. He must have the interior helps of the Holy Spirit, who moves the heart and converts it to God, who opens the eyes of the mind and ‘makes it easy for all to accept and believe the truth.'”

    Putting the finger in the wound – that’s what you always do, Greg, and that’s why I appreciate your work that much. And you say it in a nice manner! Yes, the status of everybody’s religiousness in every direction seems questioned under Internet conditions like no other question is raised today again intensified by this sheer unthinkable Alien-like horror massaker with the instant pulverization both of the famous twin towers on the world stage literally out of the blue sky.
    I see all countries are passing Gestapo style anti-terrorism laws that allow them to target people that criticize government. Thought crimes. The truth is being suppressed. You have nothing to fear but fear itself. We are like the ants driving off the elephant, we don’t need a leader. The Theorem of Cognitive Dissonance holds that the mind automatically and involuntarily rejects information not in line with previously held beliefs.Dave SlaveStorm

    In my current understanding, agents of the Roman empire infiltrated the Christian community as a last resort and slipped into the robes of the most succesful and promising religion of its time, roughly said, using then the church institutions with their devout believers and respectable clerical hierarchies to install new forms of theocratic government for pursuing even larger imperialistic goals as before. The “catholic”, all entangling institution became later a bubbling melting pot of ideologies which has been given birth among others to Jacobinism, illuminism, Zionism, (“Catholic persecution of Jews ended with Napoleon’s conquest of Europe after the French Revolution although the short lived Nazi Empire resurrected some of the practises. In 1965 the Catholic Church formally ended the doctrine of holding Jews collectively responsible for the death of Jesus.”) capitalism and communism.

    Dave Hunt made it overwhelmingly clear when he said: “Babel, Babylon was the ultimate works religion […] Catholic Rome fits the description of the woman whose name is Babylon. John tells us that the name Babylon blazing on the woman’s forehead is proceeded by the word mystery. [before this he describes blatantly the adopted unity of spiritual and political power][…]
    Mystery is the very heart of Roman Catholizism.
    Pope Paul VI.’s Encyclical on the Eucharist is titled ‘Mysterium Fidei’ (Secret of Faith). Vaticanum II (Oct. 1962 – Dec. 1965) refers repeatedly to ‘the Mystery of the Eucharist’. The Vatican’s new universal Catechism declares that all of the churches liturgy is Mystery! And that its aim is to initiate souls into the mystery of Christ. It is mystagogy!
    And that’s not a secret at all: “The Church’s universal mission is born from the command of Jesus Christ and is fulfilled in the course of the centuries in the proclamation of the mystery of God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and the mystery of the incarnation of the Son, as saving event for all humanity.”

    This notion is immensely profound, absolutely essential and fundamental, and a mission! So I would state that “9/11” is 100% mystagogy as well: a goal-oriented establishment of new psychological and political parameters on a global scale. South and North Tower like Hiroshima and Nagasaki: a new war paradigm was erected matching the democratic danger for the “monolithic and ruthless machine” of the quasi-royal elites that comes from the Internet which by the way made the bloc confrontation no longer possible.
    And don’t romantic verses and dialogs or religious poetry be like pre-election promises until today more popular than any plain logic statements of truth? Beauty rules and coolness matters in every sense regarding publicity, and that’s neither bad nor wrong, it’s fine! Many researchers invoke the biblical mantra that only the truth would “set you free” but actually, a nice mystery will do it too. The spiritually smart Tom Richards who I’m a great fan of unites for instance his educational work about the Jesuit connections with an unique, deep poignant, mysteriously illuminating, godly experience if I’ve got him right on that, and the way that I’m going seems pretty similar to his meaning, I try it. My point is that our international truth movement by trying to detect the “Jesuit magical system dominating the world of the Western civilization” must not underestimate the common pleasure in mysteries.

    Our Kafkaesque world, since Hiroshima and Nagasaki globally ruled by the military bureaucratic order of the “Saint with the Skull,” Ignatius Loyola, in the words of Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, 1961: “There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.”

    Our Kafkaesque world in the words of George Carlin nails it
    “But there’s a reason, there’s a reason, there’s a reason for this.
    There’s a reason that education sucks,
    and it’s the same reason that will never ever, ever be fixed.
    It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it!

    Be happy with what you’ve got!
    Because the owners of this country don’t want that.
    I’m talking about the real owners now. The real owners: the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions.
    Forget the politicians. They’re irrelevant.
    The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice.
    You don’t. You have no choice.
    You have owners. They own you. They own everything.
    They own all the important land.
    They own and control the corporations.

    They’ve long since paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls.
    They’ve got the judges in their back pockets.
    And they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear.
    They got you by the balls!
    They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want.
    Well, we know what they want.
    They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I’ll tell you what they don’t want:
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking.
    They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that.
    That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests.

    That’s right. You know something:
    They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 years ago. They don’t want that.
    You know what they want?
    They want obedient workers. Obedient workers.
    People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paper work. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittyier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime, and the vanishing pensions that disappear the minute you go to collect it.
    And now they’re coming for your social security money.
    They want your retirement money.
    They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street.
    And, you know something, they’ll get it.
    They’ll get it all from you sooner or later ’cause they own this fucking place.

    It’s a big club. And you ain’t in it.
    You and I are not in the Big Club.
    By the way, it’s the same Big Club they use to beat you over the head all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long, beating you over the head in their media, telling you what to believe, what to think, and what to buy.
    The table is tilted, folks.
    The game is rigged.
    And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.
    Good honest hardworking people – white collar, blue collar – it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good, honest, hardworking people.
    These are people of modest means who continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them.
    They don’t give a fuck about you!
    They don’t care about you!
    At all! At all! At all!”

    And in the words of Nick Rockefeller:
    What do you care about them?
    What do you care about these people?
    What difference does it make to you?
    Take care of your own life!
    Do the best you can do for you and your family! […]
    They are just servers. They are just people.

    Of course, there is no conspiracy!
    Just a little bit pixy dust.
    We’re all infantile, and we do love it.
    Why?
    Because we’re spiritually and culturally contained by the Holy See with its “holy wood” Hollywood among other intriguing instruments – a bit like blind flying zombies, I’m exaggerating of course. “Inculturation is the Incarnation of the Christian life and the Christian message into a certain culture, to be precise in such a way that this experience is not only expressed in forms of the culture concerned (this would be only a superficial adaptation), but so that it becomes the principle of a new inspiration, at the same time guide and uniting power, changing and creating this culture anew. Inculturation so stands at the beginning of a new creation.” Pedro Arrupe SJ
    Politics as we know it is just part of this royal-like culture around a bunch of celebrities based on the model of Jesus as the ultimate super pop(e)star. Freedom and real democracy can only now get their first chance with free uncencored public communication: “We need some collective gathering place for the people around the globe.”

    “The Bible clearly teaches that ‘friendship with the world is enmity with God’ (James 4, 4). This is the spirit that rejects examination of doctrine and teachings by the Word of God and relies on emotion and feelings.” Direct your thoughts is what you’re saying. “Take away the foreskins of your heart, […] (Jeremiah 4, 4) lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.” Weren’t just “adulterers and adulteresses” meant by saying “whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.”
    “The (god created) World” against “God”? That’s one of the reasons why I can’t find real access to Christian vocabulary: its dialectics between a dirty life and the asexual Jesus, and the winner of this game of words then logically takes all the power because of his majestic-dignity of interpretation.
    “Faith” and “Father”: “We can not evolve beyond the confines of our language.” Terence McKenna “We all pay lip service to the idea that language and culture create each other, but we actual act as though culture is real … And it isn’t!”

    Don’t you dare not to control your thoughts!
    “Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, the spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners, and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. Speak not evil one of another, brethren. […] “For what is your life? (James 4, 14) It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.” (All we are is dust in the wind.)
    “James is one of my favorite books in the bible. I don’t know, maybe it’s just the ex-Catholic in me, but James doesn’t contain much that is objectionable, and has some really good stuff. Evangelical Protestants, of course, don’t much like the book of James, though few will admit it as openly as did their hero, Martin Luther. He despised it, calling it an “epistle of straw” since it so clearly contradicted his perverted belief that salvation comes from faith alone, independent of one’s actions.”
    “Born a Catholic, die a Catholic, and what you do in between is your own business.”

    “The coming of the Lord (James 5, 8) draweth nigh” for how much centuries meanwhile?
    Jesus Sigthings.”Some people said they couldn’t see it – I don’t know – if it’s the spiritual level you have to be on to appreciate this picture.”
    “If people could find Jesus somehow in each of us like she has found in the subject that would be a wonderful thing.” Pastor David Bennett
    My problem with Jesus is far bigger than that because the idea of a “son of god” as an icon builds the monumental basis and opens the way for all sorts of personality cult culminating in such beloved dictators like the medieval pope and his modern incarnations, Hitler, Stalin and Mao who killed then on Rome’s behalf also tens of millions of modern heretics.

    And now let’s sedulously pay taxes to the inviolable CIA, NSA, NRO, FBI, Pentagon, mega banks and big corporations … The socialist neo-feudalism is marching, and the Marxist socialism didn’t really go down 20 years ago, no more than the Roman Empire 2000 years ago. The rising new world order is nothing else than the long-planned synthesis of both capitalism and communism like Jim Arrabito uncovered: “The Roman Catholic Church will rule the world again”.

    Against an army of highest educated and absolute unscrupulous synchromysticizers there only help powerful synchrodemystifiers who can enlighten your blindspot because “there is no freedom without cognitive liberty”.
    (Sorry for this far too long “odd” comment but I was seduced to it due to the fact that the subject of your posting is tangent to what I called my red thread.)

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  2. I used to listen to Greg on RBN until they took him off, reputedly for his anti-Catholic viewpoints, as I understand it…
    I agree with most of what you write, Greg, but the most important question is:
    Have you been saved, Greg?
    After we’ve been dead a 1000 years, it won’t matter one way or the other about the Catholic crime syndicate…

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  3. “how god created evil for a higher purpose”

    “A Jesuit may, as a good Catholic, hallow everything. He needs only, for example, to say to himself: “I as a priest am necessary to the church, but serve it more zealously when I appease my desires properly. Consequently I will seduce this girl, have my enemy there poisoned, etc.
    My end is holy because it’s a priest’s. Consequently it hallows the means. For in the end it is still done for the benefit of the church. Why should the Catholic priest shrink from handing Emperor Heinrich VII. the poisoned wafer for the church’s welfare?”

    Wow, I really thought my question would be worth answering, Marilynne, if you de facto do live your life and come to your decisions from a perspective of one or a couple of thousand years ahead. Are you just saying that what matters now, won’t matter then? What kind of idea of time we’re speaking about here? And why do you think, eternity is only about the future? I rather believe with Michael Cunningham that it is not in the millennia or the centuries that come but in the Hours, and that in all of them.
    The imagination of life after death isn’t of course a Judaic or Christian invention, and I believe it wouldn’t be that alive today and throughout history without our adventures that we experience during in-depth psychedelic states of the mind, while dreaming for instance. Without that it probably wouldn’t even exist!
    The Christian community uses much older belief systems for its mystery school, now under the leadership of Jesus, a son of god like the pharaohs in Old Egypt from which the Romans successfully took over the royal title for their papa with the jelly bag cap as the untouchable and “brightly shining” (holy, resp. illuminated) head of the Catholic bureaucratic apparatus which until today dominates public administration in Europe and the whole world by its self-declared “moral infallibility”.

    How familiar are you with ancestor worship and death cult practises of the Egyptians? What George Carlin makes fun of in his “United Strokes of America” was cultural standard along the Nile already 4.000 years ago. “It was often thought that at the root of one’s problems was someone deceased, referred to as the Dead One […] In such a case the aggrieved son would complain to his dead father, orally by the grave or, sometimes, in writing which was powerful magic by itself.”

    “The Pharao was referred to as the good shepherd. The people who brought the household and the religious houshold of Egypt were called in Egyptian: “The Shepherd’s Fold”. The Pharao being the representative of Har-Si-Ese, the son of god, was called “The Great Shepherd” who looked after the shepherd’s fold. The Pharao was considered to be the incarnation of Amen-Ra who ruled for god on earth. That is where we get the idea that there will be an earthly kingdom, and the pharao was the king of the kingdom.”
    Sounds familiar? “Since Jesus isn’t here …”
    Like Eric Phelps says: “understanding the flow of history” is the key which sorts the wheat from the chaff, in a manner of speaking. “For the Pope’s restoration, the Society of Jesus was the capstone of Satanic Power through which the Devil would control all of his secret societies during the Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries. Never in the history of the world had evil men been so successfully united in purposing to destroy all religious and political liberty. The intended result was to have the Papal Caesar ruling the world from Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem as the Theocratic Universal Monarch of the World.”

    The explicitly “criminal” record of the “Catholic syndicate” ought not to be that relevant in spiritual way in my eyes too, Marilynne. I would give you that. But look at the psychological devastations they wreaked and wreak within generations for several thousand years: Aren’t we all the heirs of that shocking mess caused by ruthless beasts of intelligence avid for power? Do you really want to let them ringing in for the next bloody round with their brutal “9/11” terror and conspiracy propaganda that easily? They defined the mentality of whole peoples!
    I’m afraid, living in Germany means you don’t actually need the idea of a “big invasion of bodysnatchers”. The aftermath of a fascist/capitalist regime with its “Total war” and of rigid fascist/communist surveillance and censoring terror methodes is something that you’re dealing with for decades at least. Maybe you’ve heard about Thomas Mann’s famous Untertan … This isn’t over! That’s what obviously all kinds of knowing and unknowing Ultramontanism made out of the freedom-loving Protestant German soul.

    read more …

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